[dllthomas]

I absolutely live at the command line, and when I'm forced into a walled garden I blame the tool for not properly exposing its functionality to the rest of the system so I can easily automate it the way I want it automated.

Edited to add:

Note that this isn't a claim that anyone else (in particular) is Doing It Wrong - it's what works for me, I'm sure there are other points in the space that work as well or better for others. That, itself, should not be taken as a claim that every point in the space is equivalent - that's not true either. What I do strongly refute is any notion that the command line is "under powered" in general.

[JoeAltmaier]

Used to be me. But I got sick of remembering all the arcane stuff. Now its a pulldown menu away in an IDE.

[dllthomas]

That reads a bit odd.

"I used to be fluent in French. But I got sick of remembering all the arcane stuff. Now it's just pages away in a phrase book."

Probably you were never really fluent in French in the first place. Which is to say, you were never really entirely comfortable at the shell. Which is fine - as I said, I don't assert that it's the best fit for everyone. But for me, just like producing English doesn't feel like I'm "remembering arcane stuff" neither does producing Bash, even though I fully recognize that objectively both are plenty weird.

[JoeAltmaier]

That's just wrong. I've written shells. I've written tools. I started in this business before IDE's existed. Some folks grow out of it, some stay because its so cool to know what all those switches mean.

[dllthomas]

"That's just wrong."

Please explain, rather than simply asserting.

"I've written shells. I've written tools."

I've written GUIs. That's pretty well unrelated to whether the interface fits you well.

"I started in this business before IDE's existed."

I don't see how that undermines my point. It would explain why you wound up using the shell despite it being a poor fit for you.

"Some folks grow out of it, some stay because its so cool to know what all those switches mean."

Veiled insults don't make your point stronger.

[JoeAltmaier]

What you said. Its wrong. I'm not like that.

I was a command-line master. Because you had to be, before IDEs.

And the last comment was to match the tone of the parent comment.

[dllthomas]

"I was a command-line master."

Okay.

"And the last comment was to match the tone of the parent comment."

Except you didn't match the tone of the parent comment. You said, "You're juvenile and only prefer the command line because of pride." The parent contains nothing similar; the nearest I see is a reasoned guess at your level of comfort using a tool - not even your level of skill with the tool - accompanied by an explicit statement that it's not intended as a judgement. Even if it's wrong, that's not an insult.

If this is the level of discussion I'm going to be getting, I'm done with this thread.