[davelnewton]

The same goes the opposite direction, though. While I'm sure your actual arguments are more cogent, simply complaining about something specific isn't an argument against OOP in general.

And I doubt that anybody claims Java isn't verbose, or that the IDE "handles" it--regardless of who's doing the typing, Java is verbose. The only people that hold up Java as a good example of OOP are people that don't really know any other version.

[tpresa]

He does argue that OOP introduces complexity without any unique strengths.

[davelnewton]

Are you referring to the OP's post? That part of it is simply incorrect. If you're referring to the comment I replied to, I don't see this argument in there.