[CmonDev]

It's a choice between restricted standards that hinder technology innovation and restricted markets that hinder business.

As a technologist I hope that de-facto monopolic legacy poorly-designed technologies (JS and HTML) will give way to new better technologies.

I am very happy that at least mobile still gives developers many options - mostly without lame transpilation.

[tkubacki]

Restricted App Store rules eg. disallowing external web browsers or interpreters hinder technology much more than web standards.

Talk is cheap - would love to see some of yours "not lame" piece of work.

[CmonDev]

E.g. iOS lets me use: Objective C, Swift, C#, F#, Java, Scala. All compiling to lower-level code that is either native to platform or native to the language.

Web lets me use: only JavaScript (that is written manually or transpiled).

Yes I will have to pay extra for some solutions, but I don't mind doing this as opposed to using language that I hate.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ad_hominem

[tkubacki]

> iOS lets me use [...]

And Web Components are bringing innovation (component based app building) to rusty world of web dev which is not restricted to rich western society (Apple).

I stopped ranting on JS - just use lang with good enough IDE like Dartlang (DartEditor or IntelliJ)

PS: previous comment was not "ad persona" - but if you think transpilation is "lame" - you don't know how hard it's to make performant transpiler and how wonderful piece of tech are some of those transpilers

[pjmlp]

Society has lot of mobile OSes to chose from, not only from Apple.