[mkal_tsr]

I'm well aware what privilege is.

I've been hit, spit on, bullied, tormented, passed over, told I wasn't a "real man", and more for being several std devs below the average height (fun fact, we make less money for this) due to a "heigh-ist" society.

So when I see people saying, "I'm not a bigot, but your orientation+race+gender means you don't know how bad some people have it" I'm going to call out their bullshit. They haven't lived my life, they don't know what I have and have not gone through. To say that one's unchangeable traits precludes their experiences and opinions is undeniably bigoted. Don't promote that, listen to what people have to say and understand the context from which it was said.

[mrcharles]

And yet in this case, it's not being bigoted to suggest that white guys complaining that people want inclusiveness is a bad thing is an invalid opinion. It would be like tall people complaining that a Brown's opened up. "Why are they catering to all those short men? The real clothes market is in average/tall people!"

You can call it bullshit if you want, I call it an argument made from a position of privilege.

But once again, I don't think you really understand privilege. Privilege does not mean that you never have to deal with discrimination. It simply means that there are kinds of discrimination you will never have to deal with.

White people have inherent privilege over black in north america. Men have inherent privilege over women in work settings. Tall people have privilege over short people when it comes to shopping for clothes. But one privilege absolutely does not imply all privilege.

[mkal_tsr]

> it's not being bigoted to suggest that white guys complaining that people want inclusiveness is a bad thing is an invalid opinion.

Quote me where I said that it was anything to due with preventing inclusiveness. I'll be waiting.

> I don't think you really understand privilege.

And then you proceed to say that I had a valid example of privilege (discriminatory lower pay).

> But one privilege absolutely does not imply all privilege.

I never said that, quote me where I said that. I'll be waiting.