[DannyBee]

"He thinks Apple is holding some details close to the vest and he has a plausible reason for why. Say what you will about Gruber's Apple partisanship, but he's always been great at reading between the lines of Apple's publicity events."

And he also thinks that no android wear device manufacturer is doing the same, for no plausible reason.

He's basically saying "apple has secret plans, they are awesome" and "Nobody else has secret plans, because they are not Apple. Thus, we can ignore anything they haven't talked about"

That doesn't seem very sane to me.

[notatoad]

Other people might have secret plans (like Tag Heuer's rumoured smartwatch maybe), but i think it's fair to assume that the android wear manufacturers have shown their cards. Android Wear is a released product at this point. Samsung has released four (or more?) iterations of their smartwatch. LG has released two. Motorola took some extra time to release theirs - if they had a secret awesome plan and were rushing a placeholder to market just to get their foot in the door, they would have released three months earlier. None of these companies did anything beyond the basic "smartphone notifications and action buttons on your wrist" feature set.

I'm sure there are plans for the next version to be better in lots of little ways, but i think it's perfectly rational to assume that what we are currently seeing from android wear is indicative of the general vision for android wear. If anybody had a truly game-changing idea, we would have seen some hint of it in their products by now. It's probably unreasonable to pin your hopes on apple have some revolutionary breakthrough with their smartwatch (they've been pushed to market by public pressure just as much as LG and Samsung have), but it's even more unreasonable to think that samsung has some amazing secret plan.

[fpgeek]

> i think it's fair to assume that the android wear manufacturers have shown their cards.

Um, the Android Wear manufacturers may not have any secret plans of their own, but... The Android Wear OS developer is practically jumping up and down in the corner saying "I have secret plans! I have secret plans!" See, for instance:

http://www.cnet.com/news/google-says-android-wear-about-to-g...

This shouldn't be surprising. The existing Android Wear hardware is unusually powerful (a 2010 smartphone or better?) for what it is currently doing. Given the importance of battery life, that's a strange choice - unless more is coming.

I'd also note that the GP commenter works for the previously mentioned OS developer, and the comment seems entirely consistent with someone who knows more is coming, but can't do much beyond hinting at that.

[DannyBee]

"I'd also note that the GP commenter works for the previously mentioned OS developer, and the comment seems entirely consistent with someone who knows more is coming, but can't do much beyond hinting at that."

Just to note: While it's true I work for Google, I don't speak for them on hacker news unless i explicitly say otherwise. Here, i'm just some guy. If everyone starts treating everyone otherwise, a lot of commenters would not be able to comment.

[DannyBee]

" It's probably unreasonable to pin your hopes on apple have some revolutionary breakthrough with their smartwatch (they've been pushed to market by public pressure just as much as LG and Samsung have), but it's even more unreasonable to think that samsung has some amazing secret plan."

I strongly disagree. I think they are both exactly as reasonable as each other :)

(and i also believe both are unreasonable. I'm not actually arguing they have any secret plans, i'm more arguing that the likelihood of them having secret plans, and apple having secret plans, is equal)

[freshyill]

AND he says that if it turns out Apple doesn't have secret plans, then he will indeed be very disappointed.

Everybody else's watches are shipping. If they've got secret plans, they should probably get around to revealing them.

[elblanco]

just like he backed out of being disappointed in the watch itself?

[megablast]

Well, since most of the Android devices have been released and are out there, not sure what they are waiting for in releasing whatever they have?