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by blocke 4288 days ago
The only Nexus phones here that don't already have a fix available is the phone they announced as being end of life. 4.4 is not affected and is available for the Nexus 4, 5, both generations of 7 and I believe the 10.

Dear Galaxy Nexus users... It's time to let go.
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jamesisaac 4288 days ago
The Galaxy Nexus was released only 3 years ago. Since when was that beyond the expected lifespan of a flagship product from one of the world's largest tech companies?

Don't think I've ever owned anything with such a serious planned obscolence issue. Windows supports its OS releases for 12 years (and doesn't lock you in, so you can usually follow official upgrade procedure anyway). And anything "dumber" than a smartphone doesn't really open itself up to these gaping security flaws, so still operates fine after many years.

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judk 4288 days ago
The GN wasn't planned obsolescence so much as "Google doesn't actually own the hardware, so they can't update drivers"
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allegory 4288 days ago
Do the drivers need updating? There is a kernel ABI and API that should isolate that from the rest of the OS so the OS should continue to evolve.
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kllrnohj 4288 days ago
> The Galaxy Nexus was released only 3 years ago. Since when was that beyond the expected lifespan of a flagship product from one of the world's largest tech companies?

It became beyond the expected lifespan when it became normal to buy a new one every 2 years thanks to contract pricing and carriers pushing people to upgrade.

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allegory 4288 days ago
That works apart from in Europe. We do a lot of non contract pay as you go stuff where the handset may last 4-5 years. I have a couple of Nokias that are still good after 8 years and Microsoft have a 11-12 year lifecycle for desktop OS for example.

2 years is just a cost cutting exercise and inexcusable.

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wernercd 4288 days ago
Since when has anything over 2 years, for a phone, had support? Anything over that is the exception, not the rule.

Apple has better support than most, but even their phones degrade with features missing on older phones AND included new features run like ass (every time my fiance upgrades old phone to new iOS she hate life until upgrade).

A 2 year old phone really is ancient... much less three or four... Who actually supports phones that old CONSISTENTLY?

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jamesisaac 4288 days ago
Well yeah with smartphones really short release cycles are "the rule" - because Google/Apple dominate the industry and set the rules - that's what I'm complaining about.

There's no fundamental reason a 2 year old phone should be seen as ancient. Hardware can last many times longer than that, and software can be updated. Google is just not making the effort to support its older devices.

For people like me who don't want to buy a new phone every 18 months (both a wasteful use of my money, and the earth's natural resources), Android is looking like a pretty bad choice.

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wernercd 4288 days ago
Well, honestly, it's not just Android.

iPhones have built in time lines (more or less replaceable anything. Need a new batter? Have fun...).

And then there is the face that if you want ANY kind of app support - not just OS. Facebook, Twitter, etc... - then you can't use old phones. Years old Windows phones. Look at Blackberry phones. Palm OS. No one supports them because well... no one supports them anymore.

I think it's more a function of the rapid change and growth of complexity that makes smartphones obsolete so quick. Screen density, cpu, graphics capabilities, hard drive space, antenna speeds, etc. EVERYTHING is increasing so quick that it's hard to compare a new phone to a 2 year old phone.

It'll most likely be years before it slows down enough that you can treat a smart phone like a PC - keep it for YEARS and expect most stuff to simply run on it.

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allegory 4288 days ago
My 2 year old Lumia 820 just got Windows Phone 8.1 and is as good as new in every way even though it has been dropped hundreds of times. It's getting the next 8.1 update next month as well.

That's what I expect.

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ClashTheBunny 4288 days ago
But at least there is the choice with Apple. You don't have to upgrade, but if you want the new security fixes, you have them.

With Android, if you find a beloved phone by many, you will be supported for YEARS. My gTablet was being updated by the community for 4 years after the last official update. My Galaxy Note has nightlies from multiple different projects. My wife's Sony Xperia Arc S has consistent updates still. You find a phone that people fell in love with and you will have your updates until the hardware is dead.

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