[tedks]

It's depressing that in 2014 this is something being discussed at all.

It's equally depressing that otherwise intelligent people will try to argue against codes of conduct, not realizing that as white men, they have literally no say in the matter (or at least shouldn't, even though many throw around their weight and privilege in order to disrupt things). I'd think that in a community so forward-looking and forward-thinking, people would have enough sense to be on the right side of history, instead of going down with the ship clutching their confederate dollars.

[tbrownaw]

not realizing that as white men, they have literally no say in the matter

...Wait, we're excluding people from discussions on the basis of race and gender now? And calling that "forward-thinking"?

[tedks]

Uh, yes, when it comes to women's safety and women's rights, men have literally nothing to add to the discussion. It isn't the 1800s. Men do not own women's bodies or spaces.

Thinking that your opinion is universally relevant is simple entitlement.

[dragonwriter]

> It's equally depressing that otherwise intelligent people will try to argue against codes of conduct, not realizing that as white men, they have literally no say in the matter

If its codes of conduct for a community they are part of, they certainly do have a say (and can reasonably expected to leave the community and form their own if they are denied that say.)

[tedks]

WOMAN: I find it creepy and threatening when men hit on me at hackathons and I'd like it to stop.

MAN: But what about my right to have a say in the communities I'm a part of?

...yeah.

[dragonwriter]

If there's a problem with the man's viewpoint, its with the viewpoint, not with the gender of the person who holds it.