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by vdfs 4302 days ago
That is not true. Can you give me the name of a scientist before Islam?
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Any of the ones living in pre-islamic Egypt/Babylon/Sumeria/Persia? Unless you don't believe the Egyptians/Babylonians/Sumerians/Persians were scientists and their innovations required no science or mathematics.
They weren't Arabs...
Arab can be a very generic and overly used term in many conversations. Please define who you think are Arabs.

Also the link this whole thread is about on wikipedia is about a Scientist from Turkey, not Arabia.

> "Badi'al-Zaman Abū al-'Izz ibn Ismā'īl ibn al-Razāz al-Jazarī (1136–1206) (Arabic: بديع الزمان أَبُو اَلْعِزِ بْنُ إسْماعِيلِ بْنُ الرِّزاز الجزري‎) was a Muslim polymath: a scholar, inventor, mechanical engineer, craftsman, artist, and mathematician from Jazirat ibn Umar (current Cizre, Turkey), who lived during the Islamic Golden Age (Middle Ages)."

Arab is not really generic. It is an ethnicity. An Arab does to have to be living in Arabia. Cizre at that time, was inhabited by Arabs. Al Jazari was an Arab, living in Cizre (Jazeera Ibn Amr in Arabic). It happens that this city today is a Turkish city.
> It is an ethnicity.

I'm aware that it is, but many people seem to like to use it for an (incorrect) generalization.

Cizre is in modern-day Turkey very close to the current borders of both Iraq and Syria. A person born at that time and in that region could be from a multitude of different races.
You know what, it is. Also, Mohammad was a misogynist pedophile warlord. Ideas from medieval ages have no place in the 21st century.

(Down-votes from PC folks welcome)

"Please don't bait other users by inviting them to downmod you."

"Please avoid introducing classic flamewar topics unless you have something genuinely new to say about them."

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

(Interesting that your only other comment on this profile was a suggestion to someone else to read the guidelines.)

Interesting that his only other comment on that profile was also a reply to a comment of mine.
I'm pretty sure we still find plenty of use in the ideas much older than that... Do we not still teach the ideas of Pythagoras et al?

I'm pretty sure what you're trying to say is religion has no place in the 21st century.

Also fun fact, the early days of Islam saw huge steps forward for women's rights, more so than pretty much any other culture at the time (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamic_feminism#Early_reforms_...). I'm curious why you Mohammed was a misogynist and what that has to do with Islam?

What a hateful comment. How can one judge a man who lived in the 7th century by today's standards?! Objectively speaking, a warlord he might have been but a misogynist and a pedophile surely he wasn't.
Because he is the perfect example to follow for all humans according to Muslims?

He definitely was a misogynist and a pedophile according to Islamic texts. Would you like some links?

Please stop.
I await your similar frenzied expose of Richard the Lionheart with bated breath....
So was every single religious figure..