[gress]

Fair enough. At least you acknowledge that Google no longer stands for these things.

[DannyBee]

I have never claimed Google no longer stands for these things. I just don't believe Google is on the front lines anymore, because people (like you) damn them either way.

[tptacek]

Their security teams do important work, and largely it seems because they profoundly give a shit about these issues. They're still the front line technically.

[gress]

On security, yes. On "free speech, etc.", no.

[gress]

Are you seriously claiming that Google is no longer on the front lines of defending free speech because people like me damn them either way?