[loup-vaillant]

> Aka, valid markdown from Gruber's markdown processor may not always compile on Common Markdown.

Such change is inevitable, since markdown.pl is downright buggy. This hurts the validity of Gruber's claim a lot in my opinion.

[semisight]

Change is sorely needed, I agree. And I don't think that the Common Markdown team should be forced to be backwards-compatible (I would prefer they didn't). However, Gruber's request to simply not call it Markdown is fairly reasonable, the same way you wouldn't call Clojure "Common Lisp."

[loup-vaillant]

One little problem: Gruber didn't call his thing "Common Lisp" or something. He called it "Lisp". Which is only natural, since he was the first. My point is, he claimed the shortest name. There are few ways around that.

And since this new standard differs so little, compared to the other flavours who do call themselves "FooBar Markdown" without much reaction from Gruber, I think it's only reasonable they call themselves "Markdown" as well.

I don't recall, John McCarthy complaining about Common Lisp taking a name claiming they were now the new and official Lisp. And this Lisp differs quite considerably from his original, with lexical scope and all. Even Scheme and Clojure, who don't bear the name, say all over that they're a Lisp.

So, I can't be sympathetic to Gruber's reaction. He abandoned ship. He forfeited the right to steer it.

[lispm]

Steele/Gabriel about the name Common Lisp:

> After a day and a half of technical discussion, this group went off to the Oakland Original, a greasy submarine sandwich place not far from CMU. During and after lunch the topic of the name for the Lisp came up, and such obvious names as NIL and SPICE Lisp were proposed and rejected—as giving too much credit to one group and not enough to others—and such non-obvious names as Yu-Hsiang Lisp were also proposed and reluctantly rejected.

> The name felt to be best was “Standard Lisp,” but another dialect was known by that name already. In searching for similar words, the name “Common Lisp” came up. Gabriel remarked that this wasn’t a good name because we were trying to define an Elitist Lisp, and “Common Lisp” sounded too much like “Common Man Lisp.”

> The naming discussion resumed at dinner at the Pleasure Bar, an Italian restaurant in another Pittsburgh district, but no luck was had by all.

> Later in E-mail, Moon referred to “whatever we call this common Lisp,” and this time, amongst great sadness and consternation that a better name could not be had, it was selected.

[NaNaN]

When morality is down, the law is up. So, no thanks to the author?

[ksec]

cant upvote u enough!