[dubcanada]

I'm sorry but I fail to see what this post is for. You made a post complaining about someone else's post (of which should not have been made in the first place) trying too win over people of whom have no opinion on the matter?

Or is this just you trying to get some PR cred by saying that it was buggy/not properly done/blah blah because a bunch of people (which could be entirely made up) said so?

And in my professional opinion (no offense to the CakePHP developers) but CakePHP is about as opinionated as you get with PHP frameworks, it's almost impossible to "use it wrongly". So sorry but that sounds like a load of crock.

[josegonzalez]

As a CakePHP Core Developer, I disagree with the fact that you can't use the framework wrong. Any utility/library/framework can and will be bent backwards to accommodate the needs of the developer, and in ways the original developer did not imagine were possible.

It's totally possible that the developer in question wrote horrid code - though any browser issues would only be caused by html/css, something the framework doesn't generate for you past having initial admin-type scaffolding.

I still think the guy should have gotten paid and kept the money.

[dblacc]

>I'm sorry but I fail to see what this post is for. You made a post complaining about someone else's post (of which should not have been made in the first place) trying too win over people of whom have no opinion on the matter?

weeeeell, if he's the founder, he does have a right to defend his companies reputation (that said, i don't agree with the way he's handled it).