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by kjksf 4313 days ago
It doesn't matter that what she says is a lie?

It's interesting how you twist yourself into a pretzel (you "probably", maybe, a little bit, think that what she says about the sponsor is a lie) to end up with the conclusion that her actions are somehow justified and the board is committing some terrible crime of censorship.

The validity of her complains is very much the core of the issue.

She only gave one example (that Google is "involved in corporate mass surveillance") and presumably that is in context of NSA spying and the consensus around that is that it's a lie.

At her level badmouthing a partner is grossly nonprofessional. Spreading vicious lies - that's a no brainer reason to fire her.

Also, let's not be naive about the context of her complaints. When she says "when someone asks me..." she (or the board) doesn't mean "my college friend at a dinner party" but "a member of the press".

And given the state of journalism, "the member of the press" is not interested in Linda's perspective on Google's spying because she has literally nothing new to add.

In that context the only value for the press is to reduce her views to a click-baiting headline of "Code Club board member accuses sponsor Google of mass surveillance" which would damage Google precisely because they were nice enough to sponsor Code Club.

If she complained about AT&T (which actually did illegally spy on Americans in massive constitutional violation, for which they received a retroactive immunity), there would be no story because AT&T is not a Code Club sponsor or Linda doesn't feel like complaining about AT&T.

I'm not privy to the details but the simplest interpretation of what we know is that she was hell bent on spouting nonsense of the "Google mass surveillance" kind to the press and the board was very justified in worrying about a press creating a mountain out of a molehill to the point they felt they had to intervene.

So far there is 0 evidence that Linda had some novel complaints that are serious enough to risk damaging an organization that helps kids learn to code. So far all I see a selfish, self-righteous individual.

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   > It doesn't matter that what she says is a lie?
That statement makes it sound like you have additional information about this situation. If that is the case would you care to share it?

I have observed that there are at least two weighting components to an opinion, the person and the person's position. The same opinion uttered by a programmer at corporation X has different weight than when it is uttered by the CEO of the corporation. I have also observed that it can constrain the ability of highly opinionated people to achieve positions of higher authority.

So without an understanding of what the statements were, and what her basis was for making those statements, and even the context in which the statements were made. It is not possible to judge the appropriateness of her actions.

That said, I have spoken to many managers who have been chastised at some point in their career for expressing negative opinions about entities that were important to the organization (sponsors, customers, investors, Etc.) How folks internalize that feedback varies from individual to individual.

> That statement makes it sound like you have additional information about this situation. If that is the case would you care to share it?

With no additional information available, it is not logical to jump to extreme conclusions, in either direction. If anything, you should assume they don't rather than they do (you know, the entire not-guilty until proven thing)

What you see as me "twisting myself into a pretzel" is actually just me acknowledging that while I have arrived at an opinion about something, I might not be right about it.

One of the terrifying things about how online mass communication works is how quickly it locks us into the most stridently delivered conclusions that are compatible with our worldview. This is a good example.

If it is her opinion, how can it be a lie?

On the other side of it, she was asked to say As a member of the board I am completely aligned with that view which would in fact be a lie.

As someone who hasn't a clue about this whole situation, can you give an example of one of these "vicious lies" that she was spreading about Google?

I tried googling it, but couldn't even find any statements about Google.

> and the consensus around that is that it's a lie.

Is it?