[hawkice]

This is a fair distinction that doesn't get spoken about here on HN that much. There are a lot of people, seeing the remarkably high quality content and PR, and assuming that being good at communication is somehow duplicitous or manipulative.

The last thing we should do is accept only a community incapable of communication or effective self-promotion. That kind of handicap could reasonably stop a great deal of viable hackers from doing what excites them, and isn't promoting that the entire point?