[kjs3]

Oh, man, is this ever the problem with Forth: the absolute delusion, ruthlessly reiterated by Moore and the Faithful(Forthful?) that the only reason Forth hasn't taken over the world is that everyone other than the Faithful are too stupid to get Forth and see how completely superior it is to everything else. The only time I ever said "Forth rocks!" is how easy it made getting through those college "design a computer and a usable programming environment" classes, because a dead simple stack based arch + Forth gets you a solid C.

There was a time every Sun and Apple computer came with a FORTH interpreter in ROM

And there's a reason they don't any more. It was a pretty interesting way of enumerating device capabilities, and a terrible way of abstracting device driver details, which was why it was there. Having tried to beat Sun OpenFirmware Forth into making SBus device drivers "easier", I guess I fall into the "too dumb" category, because it was a disaster.

It is a beautiful language, if you can handle it.

Says every language zealot, ever.