[alaricsp]

Perhaps I've just been unlucky ;-) This was Allied Telesyn kit IIRC.

But this is by the by! Rather than a damning indictment of STP, my real point was that having to configure all the layers of a network - physical cabling, VLANs, routing, firewalling - independently involves a load of effort that I'm not convinced is necessary. It'd be lovely to have routing functions occur in every switch, automatically routing between VLANs that are present together on the switch, and then doing MPLS-esque fast switching of frames across the network to destination switches if not - merging the switching and routing layers of the stack would just simplify things; why should we need the complex techniques we have to make networks resilient to failure?