[dreamdu5t]

It's not arbitrary. Hiring agreements (collusion) do not involve force or fraud. Do you truly not distinguish between bashing someone over the head for my stuff from agreeing to exchange something for it? The latter is voluntary and the former is forced.

[Goronmon]

>Hiring agreements (collusion) do not involve force or fraud.

Hiring agreements are where an employer uses the power of their position (and those they are colluding with) to control their employees. I would argue this is just another form of 'force'. You don't need to physically harm someone to control them.

[dreamdu5t]

A shop that opens across the street from another shop doesn't "force" the other shop to lose money. Your definition of force is contradictory, as it leaves no room for anything that is not pre facto considered force.

[rayiner]

I don't distinguish between a group of people colluding to beat someone up, and colluding to subvert the market by suppressing wages. I think it's entirely arbitrary to say that the state should use violence to prevent one kind of harmful activity and not the other.

[dreamdu5t]

What aspect of the market is subverted by hiring agreements? A price is what two parties agree to trade. Hiring agreements in no way prevent parties from agreeing to trade. McDonald's isn't subverting anything if they won't sell you a burger for 50 cents.