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by PhasmaFelis 4345 days ago
> As for "What if they're mistaken?", well I highly doubt anyone will be convicted off the basis of an automated image recognition tool alone.

"Convicted" isn't the fear, post-9/11. The fear is getting put on a secret government watch list and being harassed for the rest of your life with no chance to ever clear your name, or even to be told why you're being screwed.
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deong 4345 days ago
That's a legitimate concern, but the root problem is the existence of secret government watch lists free of oversight and lacking any transparent or available process for being inadvertently put on one.

If we grant that such a list is wise to have, then sure, let's focus as much effort as possible on making sure that we don't put innocent people on those lists. But I'd much rather focus my efforts on not having the lists in the first place.

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lclarkmichalek 4345 days ago
Isn't that mainly terrorism, not paedophilia? Anyway, at least in this case, the tip was sent to the National Center for Missing and Exploited Children, which, being a private non profit, doesn't seem too closely associated with the NSA/DHS/whatever government organisation you believe maintains these lists.
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throwaway0010 4345 days ago
"Isn't that mainly terrorism, not paedophilia?"

It's nothing at all. Plenty of innocent people are on those lists having done nothing.

That the pretext is terrorism is irrelevant.

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DanBC 4345 days ago
The UK version - the Internet Watch Foundation - is also a charity but you'd be a foolish UK ISP to ignore what they say.

https://www.iwf.org.uk/

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lclarkmichalek 4345 days ago
The UK equivalent would probably be the NSPCC. If Google had a tip of an individual person distributing these images they would not contact the IWF. That would be for a website that was distributing these images.
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DanBC 4345 days ago
In the UK the IWF provide information about what to block and take reports about hosted images.

CEOP are the group that Google would report people to.

http://ceop.police.uk/

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PhasmaFelis 4345 days ago
> Isn't that mainly terrorism, not paedophilia?

"Terrorism" was just how they learned they could get away with it. Having established that, it's now any damn thing they want.

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