[napoleond]

This is an interesting conversation (the whole thread). I think people get really tripped up with these discussions because they're talking about different things. The first comment talks about "side projects" making $10k per month. I think 'patio11 and 'tptacek as well as yourself would all agree that $10k/month is impressive for a true side project (built and maintained entirely outside of normal working hours), but that it's completely normal (almost required) for even the smallest of "lifestyle businesses". (That term, to me, signifies a business which demands full time attention from its principals, at least to start.)

The "patio11 as runaway success" quote is probably what triggered the rest of this discussion--obviously 'patio11 is successful, but there's nothing "runaway" about it.