[sp332]

leave everyone to their own devices

Tons of men are recruited to the field, why not women?

[drz]

Show me these magical affirmative action programs targeting straight white men.

[sp332]

They're not magical. http://www.genengnews.com/insight-and-intelligence/women-sti... You don't need individual programs for men, it's the default. http://jonathanherzog.com/node/129 General trends http://www.businessinsider.com/7-things-keeping-women-out-of... Specific incidents http://geekfeminism.wikia.com/wiki/Timeline_of_incidents

[drz]

You do need individual programs for men as a valid counterpart for individual programs for women. Where are they?

[sp332]

I don't need an individual program for men because the industry is a mass program for men. http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2012/09/19/...

[drz]

So you can't deliver on your claim at all.

You can't show any individual program for men, because there is no individual program for men.

You lose by default.

Thanks for your time.

[sp332]

How is it different from affirmative action? Change the gender and get a better chance of being hired.