It is amazing how many comments in this thread say "we do x in y" based on solely personal experience - HN crowd should now better than that, no? (please check my comment in response to thomholwerda https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=8030089 - Belgians do both)
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=8029979
"Belgium also no refrigeration..."
Insert joke about Belgian unity here.