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by sirgawain33 4365 days ago
This article is a great example of NIH syndrome.

You can get the same improvement with "About $5 of materials and an hour of time." [1]

That's by Dale Andreatta, a mechanical engineer that's been tinkering with improved stoves for decades. But he's not the only one, there are plenty of pot tweaks that achieve comparable or better the the improvements cites in the article.

Like many commenters below bring up, there are other design constraints to cooking technology than raw throughput -- performance at low temperature, manufacturing complexity, ease of cleaning, evenness of heating, performance under varying ambient conditions (humidity, wind, temp).

I encountered many such rocket scientists (literally) while designing improved stoves over the last few years. The engineering of stoves only superficially resembles the engineering of jet engines: the quantities are all different (low flow rate, low pressures, lower temperatures) and, as a result, the overall drivers of performance are very different (for example, stove to pot efficiency is largely governed by excess air control, NOT surface area)

A good example is that I got many recommendations to add "swirlers" [2] to stoves to improve mixing and reduce output CO. This works great in a jet, but it's useless in a stove: there's not enough pressure generated by natural draft to make the device effective.

[1] pg. 14 http://www.vrac.iastate.edu/ethos/files/ethos2008/Sat%20AM%2...

[2] https://www.google.com/search?q=swirlers+jet+engine&espv=2&t...

1 comments

Personally, I'd much rather buy his version than make my own. The newer design has the fins going all the way up the pot, which seems like it would make it more efficient at heating the sides, although it might be inconsequential (I'm not a rocket scientist). The newer design is also much much nicer looking that the cobbled together one, and the single piece body seems more durable. I don't think this is an example of NIH syndrome, I think this an example of a commercial implementation of a good hack.
I could dig up examples of nicer looking finned pots. The name escapes me at the moment, but I remember seeing one at a conference last year.

The point is that the technique was well known. It's not manufacturing or aesthetics that's been holding back the technology.

Eta pots (and similar models from jetboild who popularized the concept) are awesome but they aren't meant to hold up to kitchen use as they are designed to be light weight for hikign and climbing.
That is a good point. Although it might be popularity that was holding it back, and this article seems to have helped with that. I wonder how far this thing will go.