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by PM_Tech 4353 days ago
The article fails to realise that in most of the anecdotes retold; today the state would intervene at the behest of a neighbour and "I read it in the New York Times" will not really prevent the investigation into why you allowed your child to play with knives, live for 3 days at the top of a slag heap of rubble or hold a loaded handgun.

Also - teenage mortality has reduced drastically[1]. It's hard to argue that could be a bad thing.

It is probably because we don't let them (wherever possible) carry out activities that might kill themselves.

I am a parent of 3; I will happily take my children mountain climbing, skiing, snowboarding, trekking, wild swimming. In a few years we plan to trek to Everest Base Camp and they are coming with me to the Andes.

We engage in controlled risk. If they break a limb skiing then they break a limb skiing. They pushed beyond their abilities in some way. I don't need to give them wrappers of cocaine from a criminal and a handgun to be a better parent.

There is also a very real risk of the "Tom Sawyer" bias. Each generation thinks their generation took greater risks and had more vivid adventures than the one previous. The cognitive dissonance curiously avoids the higher levels of child abuse, abduction, injury, poisoning, asphyxiation, malnutrition and disease. My father used to have great adventures playing as a child in asbestos riddled houses. You can talk to his friends about it sometimes...well the few that have not died before 60.

Oh look here is a group of kids that used lethal asbestos as chalk. [2] They really learned a valuable lesson about ad-hoc citizenry there.

[1]http://www.cbs.nl/en-GB/menu/themas/gezondheid-welzijn/publi... [2]http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-tyne-24942338

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Right, but the linked articles actually state that the main cause in reduced mortality was reduced traffic accidents. Almost all of the things in the NYT article would not have qualified as traffic accidents. On the face of it, this doesn't really surprise me: many things are "dangerous" yet it's not that easy to kill someone (or yourself) in an accident. Heavy machinery changes that equation, and virtually all heavy machinery we come in contact with are motor vehicles.

In other words: the data doesn't immediately suggest that increased caution has lead to reduced mortality outside of traffic. The NYT article is still plausible from this perspective.

> We engage in controlled risk.

This is probably why your children are much less prone to socially objectionable activities; they get it out of their system.

On the other hand, I think it is the easy access of information and videos on the Internet about everything that help younger people be less curious about what will happen if they do this and that. I don't think it is parents stopping their kids or the neighbours calling the police. Neighbours used to call the police in the past too. Those police were the parents themselves.

When did swimming become "wild swimming"? Is this just the first time I'm seeing this phrase?
Probably to differentiate from swimming-pool swimming?