[dewey]

Let's not turn this into a political discussion here. Just because I volunteered doesn't mean I'm agreeing on everything they do, my boss in the army was an arab and he was one of the nicest people I've met.

If you think it's someone else's land it's probably time for a history lesson going back further than 1948.

[madaxe_again]

It IS a political discussion however. How can one talk about a weapons system used in an asymmetrical war without being political?

Sorry, but the Torah is historical fact just as much as the bible or the Qur'an, and are we to accept every claim as fact? Either way, it's a state based on fundamentalist dogma, so I'm not certain what history you think I should be learning. I think the western interests around Suez and the desire to prevent an ascendant Iran on the post-war years are far more relevant to why Israel is.

Edit: not sure how you can say that you don't support it all yet you volunteered. That's the very definition of support.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DBFdlj0Cv-Y#t=50 Quoted: Are IDF soldiers happy with their missions? Is the Israeli army 'the most moral' in the world? What are the tasks when there are no immediate wars or terror alerts? We talk to Avihai Stollar, IDF veteran combatant and member of 'Breaking the Silence' organization, which collects confessions from soldiers about what they had to engage in during their military service in the West Bank or Gaza.