[duncan_bayne]

No - criticism of Israeli policies is entirely valid, and there are many valid criticisms that could be made, including over this issue. In addition, to clarify my own position, I don't think taxpayers money should be spent on aid to Israel (or any other country for that matter, but that's a different story).

My objection is to the "electronic Intifada" source. I don't think we need to give Jew-haters and would-be ethnic cleaners any publicity on HN. Or, alternatively, we should publicize resources like Memri equally, so that readers can get a clear view of the ideology behind the Intifada.

Also, re my link bring propaganda: it contains translations of Palestinian media into English. If you think that constitutes anti-Palestinian or anti-Islamic propaganda, perhaps you should take the matter up with the Palestinian Muslims who produced the material in the first place.

[irv]

Written by Max Blumenthal though, who I don't think you can correctly describe as a "Jew-hater".

I submitted it because it was interesting, but also referenced the role technology had played in the manipulation of the story.

[duncan_bayne]

No the name is a bit of a giveaway :-) I found the story interesting, and was definitely on topic for HN - hence an up vote and comment from me. I just wanted to make sure that the nature of the Intifada was made clear, lest justifiable criticism of Israel be used as a smokescreen for the far worse behavior of the Mujahideen.

[lafar6502]

I see, you'd rather avoid any talk about unpleasant facts, you'd rather label people Jew-haters and do some murky insinuations about ideology. This is what I call propaganda.

[duncan_bayne]

I don't think I'm making "murky insinuations" at all. I'm saying quite clearly that I think the Intifada is anti-Jewish, not anti-Israeli, that its goal is the destruction of the state of Israel, and that the motivation for both facts stems from Islam itself.

[lafar6502]

And this is an insinuation AFAIK.

[duncan_bayne]

I don't mean to insinuate anything - I'm trying to be clear and direct about my opinion. What do you think I'm insinuating?