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by bayesianhorse 4359 days ago
Non-Souvereignty is largely regarded as a wild conspiracy theory. And really, what kind of evidence is there?

Inevitably, signs of "foreign control" turns out to be some form of competition, cooperation, trade or just plain common interests.

What counts more is that Germans are allowed to say anything they want, there is no evidence of tampering in elections, the press is free and extensive, and people can largely do as they please. Nothing is ever perfect, but claiming US sovereignty over Germay is just plain stupid.
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igl 4353 days ago
It is not plain stupid. It's actually a good opportunity to figure out what the Grundgesetzbuch is (yes, it is actually not a valid 'constitution') Even Scheuble said the sovereignty issues went into 'ad absurdum' since ww2. There is contract after contract after contract. Germany is in so much need of a rewrite of its law books. Everything is corrected by extensions and special rule. The amount of paperwork germans produce is INSANE and should easily push someone to think "Wait there is something f'ed here".

- Say anything they want: Unless you mention the H with the J's... and cough Horst Köhler cough

- No evidence of tampering in elections: mmmmmmh there are always issues in the east and there is always something coming up in small districts or states. They are not major but important nonetheless (Read: Local press)

- The press is free and extensive: LOL!!!!!!!!! Axel Springer and Spiegel dictate the opinion here, everyone else is a jew-baby-eating holocost denier.

- people can largely do as they please: yes, if they can afford a lawyer to help them with the paperwork.

Not getting into this stuff and just accepting everything would be plain stupid.

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terranstyler 4358 days ago
Well, first let me state that I am not sure what to make of this Non-sovereignty.

However, here are some of the arguments I find interesting:

- A decent amount of videos about this topic can be found on youtube, most of the feature also Schäuble (Minister of Finance) saying that Germany neither is nor ever was souvereign.

- Untampered elections are necessary but not sufficient for democracy. What if you elect someone and the newly elected just do as they please after the election? (see US or Germany)

- free press: This is my personal opinion but I often find that very interesting things happen worldwide and the German press doesn't care or all major journals have the same opinion (example: EU is good, Russia is bad, Ukraine is Putin's fault)

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