[noname123]

I started a 401(k) account and put it on S&P500 index fund, it's gone up about 65% in two years. The best part of the business is that I work less than Timothy Ferris, "0-hour work week"; I let the money do the work for me, not the other way around.

[joshdance]

Interest to put this under starting something profitable, but the tone seems a little snarky.

[noname123]

Np, I didn't mean to be snarky. I wanted to make a point both the opportunity cost of starting something creative and the pride that entrepreneurs have for their "initiative and originality" yet are beholden and exploited by the investors who invest in them and who'll ultimately reap in their success.

Also that trading can be an creative act (expressing your belief about yourself, in risk-taking in buying a leveraged option call or a conservative index fund with stop loss; your personal conflict resolution and problem solving when the market moves against you) and a simple decision to invest in an index fund is not trivial but can be just as nuanced in making any complex decisions. But in the West, we put so much credence in "hustlin'" that we become penny-wise and pound-foolish.

[chaqke]

unless creating for the sense of ownership or pure joy, it's certainly valid to compare the time spent against the opportunity cost of a full-time job or contracting.

it was a thread about _profit_, after all.