[oscargrouch]

I have the same line of thinking as you do.. is the difference in use something you like and can work, and choose something you can use in a bigger group..

HN crowd are top smart.. things like Rust and Haskell are a breeze for people here.. but this is not the reality of the tech field.. the majority of people i know in tech, cant handle more powerful languages.. its too much for them

In the end is just that.. know how to choose the right tool for the job.. and dont do it with your ego..

Adaptation is really important.. and in your thoughts we can see a lot of that..

In Wonderland people may have the IQ to spend for the extra concepts and power a language may provide.. but experience is antagonic to this dream..

The cool thing of smart people to make complex things more simple, is that much more people are able to follow.. is the democratization of computing.. this is in total odds against the elitism we can see in some tech circles.. and im totally against it..

[illumen]

Rust and Haskell are made to reduce the amount of problems you have.

I've seen newbie programmers learn Haskell as a first language in under a term. So I don't believe the marketing from the Google people that their language is worse because it is simpler.

Choosing something because marketing told you it was easier is just as silly as choosing something because of ego. Calling people egoists when they choose a tool because of reasoned arguments based on evidence is simply anti-intellectual, and rude.

[jerf]

"I've seen newbie programmers learn Haskell as a first language in under a term."

Even as a fan of Haskell, I have to say that if you spent one term on Haskell and one term on Go, the latter students are going to be far closer to a place where you could drop them into a real job and get real work out of them. (That said, as I sit here and look back on what "one term" really constitutes, it's not much, regardless of language.)

[oscargrouch]

> Choosing something because marketing told you it was easier is just as silly as choosing something because of ego. Calling people egoists when they choose a tool because of reasoned arguments based on evidence is simply anti-intellectual, and rude.

I Just dont know where in the post i did say something like that.. marketing? egoists? where did i said that?

If you happen to be above average in say english language for instance.. and you know a lot of words and sentences, poems.. but the thing is.. if you choose the speak in the english you know better, you will communicate with fewer people.. or you can just jump to a lower level to communicate so everybody can understand..

Of course you can use the advanced english with elite people.. you can teach people the 'better english' but a lot of them wont care, because they care about other things.. and i dont blame them.. (they may be worried about math or trips)

My point was just something like that.. nothing more, nothing less

[stcredzero]

If you happen to be above average in say english language for instance.. and you know a lot of words and sentences, poems.. but the thing is.. if you choose the speak in the english you know better, you will communicate with fewer people.. or you can just jump to a lower level to communicate so everybody can understand..

Intended side effect of irony?