[Maarten88]

I agree with most of the critisisms, but Microsoft is also seeing those problems and is actively fixing them in ASP.NET vNext[1]:

- It's really crossplatform and open

- It does away with the IIS / System.Web dependency

- It has clean json based project files that can reference project dependencies locally and also on nuget and github

- It unifies the ASP.NET MVC and Web API frameworks and other good things like SignalR

Which only leaves the traditional mindset of .NET developers (SQL Server and Entity framework as the default data technology) as problems. In the right environment those remaining problems can be worked around.

[1] http://www.asp.net/vnext/overview/aspnet-vnext/getting-start...

[jonathanoliver]

How many of these ideas would have come from within Microsoft had in not beed for the ALT.NET movement and .NET developers looking outside themselves to other communities?

[Maarten88]

Probably none. Does it matter? The point is that they seem to have lost the NIH mentality, which is a Good Thing.