[krainboltgreene]

> Pay some team to write a proper and complete Rails/Django or at least Flask level framework -- and document it.

> Dart VM runs on the command line and server. You can access files, directories, sockets, HTTP, Web sockets, SSL, and more. So the core functionality is all there, out of the box.

These aren't the same things and likely a major difference between a popular language and a non-popular language.

[coldtea]

Pretty much sums up my feeling about the responses too.

It's mostly "we provide the basics, let it to the not-really-that-big community to come up with the stuff you ask for" or "there's already some 10 ho-hum independent efforts for that", instead of: "we (Google), ourselves, will create, guide and provide top tier implementations for those things, like we do with Angular for example".