[andyidsinga]

yes this is exactly how it starts.

ive found getting out with the team for lunches regularly ..like alomost every day helps a lot . this is where the boss can strike up conversation and set the tone.

the boss can also reward folks for having focus and disipline during the work day.

one counter argument that will occur is that people want to work/code on the weekend or late at night "because they like to". My response is: "i would love it if you had non-work hobbies on the nights and weekends - learning those skills can be fun :)"

i dunno, no doubt its hard, but its shit to be burned out.