[jdbernard]

Ten years from now, when web security is even more laughable and anemic than it already is, some of us are going to remember discussions like these where application developers at large ignored the warnings from the established crypto community. Some of us are old enough already to remember this pattern happening before.

I understand the strong reaction to the actions of the NSA, but all this is doing is providing the appearance of security while not making it any more difficult for adversaries like the NSA.

[notblahbl4hblah]

Yep. This whole NSA thing has forced a new generation to start reading Applied Cryptography...or at least make it plain that they need to.