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by grkvlt
4382 days ago
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No. Just because one part of an organisation does not have a particular property, it does not negate that property for all other parts. The USA and UK are, quite obviously, democracies. There are free and fair secret elections for government in which anyone can vote, and anyone can stand for election as a candidate. That makes them democracies, the behaviour of their secret intelligence services is irrelevant. I worry about the thought processes that must occur for people to think this; or similar things, like conflating an instance of some law enforcement department abusing its power with a totalitarian police state... I understand hyperbole as a rhetorical device, but it isn't helpful when assumed as fact. |
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Sorry, but I'm going to have to call bullshit on this one.
Lobbying and uncapped campaign donations are tantamount to legalised bribery. The system is utterly corrupt.
Free they may be, but calling them fair is a gross misrepresentation in my opinion.
> I worry about the thought processes that must occur for people to think this; or similar things, like conflating an instance of some law enforcement department abusing its power with a totalitarian police state.
We're not saying it's a police state. We're saying it is becoming one because of the very tools that these agencies possess and abuse without accountability.
As an example, you've basically had a man (a criminal) James Clapper lie directly to congress knowingly and unabashedly. He's somehow still walking around, free and lol'ing at the general public he so joyously likes to mislead and scaremonger.
> I worry about the thought processes that must occur for people to think this; or similar things.
I honestly think the same of people who think that there is no problem here, nothing to worry about or even that it's a good thing. I honestly can't wrap my head around the immense wilfull ignorance some people seem to be displaying.
It makes me sad, angry and disgusted all at once.