[terminus]

> They might not be the most open of company but they had open source technologies that are awesome in their own right. LLVM is just one of them. Open sourced and won the ACM award. That by itself is a achievement hard to beat.

I don't understand how a community project became "Apple's achievement."

Apple did not open source LLVM. LLVM was an open source project (since 2000), which Apple used and open sourced their contributions to on the way.

[hetman]

Also true of WebKit. I don't think it makes sense to draw conclusions about a project which started as a closed in house affair, based on projects which were based on open source ones, as parent has.