[gglanzani]

This. A thousand times.

My work gives me a (hybrid) car. Almost (~95%) every day I let it home and take the train to get to work.

But I have three kids and my wife is pregnant, so there's no way she could do almost anything without having a car.

[couchand]

But, having chosen to live in a world built primarily for the car, how do your kids get around when they don't have you to drive them? How will you get around when you're old and no longer able to drive?

Building our cities such that you believe you need a car was the original sin. Everything else follows from that "logically".

[megablast]

Sure, it is harder without a car, but it not impossible. Somehow we have survived for a long time before cars.

[Evgeny]

We have also survived without electricity for a long time, so I'm not sure it's a convincing argument.

[eevilspock]

Yes, but one has lots of environmental and societal costs, while the other doesn't. If electricity were bad overall for society, his argument would apply to it too.

[Evgeny]

Isn't most of electricity these days obtained by burning coal? I remember figures around couple hundred thousand yearly just from that. Here is one of the sources

https://sites.google.com/site/yarravalleyclimateactiongroup/...

[eevilspock]

There is "no way"? Millions of poor figure out a way every day. That the privilidged spend their dollars (and everyone else's dollars when you take into account the economic externalities of driving a car) widens and perpetuates the convenience gap between cars and public transit, which in turn deepens and perpetuates all other gaps between the rich and the poor.