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by gadders 4392 days ago
It is still possible to knock someone out with a slap. Some bouncers in the UK recommend it as a) it doesn't hurt your hand so much and b) telling the police you just slapped someone doesn't sound so bad. Plenty of videos on youtube of people being knocked out with a slap.
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1stop 4392 days ago
being knocked out is related to the brain hitting the walls of the skull, it has very little to do with what caused that. Slap, Fist, head-butt, concrete, car crash etc.

But I was responding to the claim slapping is equivalent to punching.

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aResponder52 4391 days ago
Depends on the goal. You're right about it being less likely to break a bone (on the target) or cause bleeding (again, on the target), but a solid slap will cause similar secondary impacts (brain hitting the skull)

I'll take a KO after some body shots and two working hands over a bloodied up opponent and a broken hand. There are much better tools to use against a skull, like elbows (less delicate than hands), but you need to account for range and movement.

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1stop 4391 days ago
You are arguing hypothetical outcomes, I'm arguing applied force.

We are kind of talking past each other.

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aResponder52 4391 days ago
Just so we're talking about the same kind of slap. If I had to guess, and I can only guess at this point, you're thinking... like... a slap, a swing with an arm.

I'm talking more like an open handed punch, complete with torso rotation and a pivot. Like a hook, just no fist.

oh, oh, got another one.

Look into the impulse of the strike, and the pressure area. Here, you're going to see a big difference, in favor of your position.

You'll have the same amount of force, probably with a significant increase in the speed that force transmits into the struck area. You're right. Past a certain point, though, someone doesn't get /more/ unconscious.

And, to anticipate your possible response, yes, they can end up /more/ unconscious to the point of death, but, cement does a much better job of that than any human body part.

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aResponder52 4391 days ago
No sir. Been slapped, been punched, and done both. I'm talking anecdotal evidence, you're talking engineering.
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