[opendais]

Ah, but that is a violation of the curriculum and clear cause for removal.

Tenure isn't some magical invulnerability to being fired. It simply slows the process to a crawl and forces the collection of a mountain of evidence to fire someone for cause.

If someone intentionally, and repeatedly, violates the curriculum you can fire a tenured teacher.

You can't acquire that mountain of evidence in the 12 months between getting a ban on evolution passed and having it repealed in federal court.

[joeclark77]

You just contradicted yourself. You're saying here that tenure cannot enable teachers to defy the school board.

[opendais]

I didn't actually.

Tenure doesn't give them immunity to the school board and/or other administrators.

It does last long enough that abuses of the system and/or unofficial pressure to be resolved before the teacher actually loses their job.

Firing a teacher with tenure can take 12+ months.

Clearer?

[Variance]

Joe is right, you did contradict yourself. You originally said that tenure allows teachers to violate stupid school board decisions and to teach evolution anyway. Here, you said that tenure does not allow teachers to not teach evolution if the school board mandates it.

Which is it? Can the school board fire teachers for not following the curriculum? If so, then school boards can stop teachers from teaching evolution. If not, then teachers can choose to teach Creationism. Either way, tenure doesn't matter.

[opendais]

> How much do you want to bet violating such a ban would lead to immediate dismissal without tenure protections?

Another way to phrase that would be: Teachers can violate such a ban temporarily.

It isn't blanket immunity and that isn't what I said.

[Variance]

So teachers can only teach evolution temporarily until the school board fires them and implements Creationism?

[opendais]

Assuming the Church/State separation vanishes, yes.