[antidaily]

I used to throw out numbers and almost always underbid. These days I ask for the budget, figure out how many hours that comes out to, and tell them what they get. I never give a number before the potential client tells me what they can spend. They know what they can afford so why play games?

[herrherr]

Unfortunately some clients like to play this game and don't mention their budget. In my opinion this makes it worse for both sides.