[Sprint]

Sure it is for a greater cause, but making people expose their websites' visitors to a third-party is not what I would have expected from a privacy movement. See http://resetthenet.tumblr.com/post/84330794665/the-reset-the...

Instead of having a local javascript, they want you to make sure all your visitors load it from members.internetdefenseleague.org or fightforthefuture.github.io

The main site is not privacy protecting either. Leaking to Optimizely, Amazon, YouTube, Heroku, Cloudflare, taskforce.is, Typekit.

[oceanstone]

> Leaking to Optimizely, Amazon, YouTube, Heroku, Cloudflare, taskforce.is, Typekit

Optimizely helps the team at FFTF A/B test wording. I was asking to remove that sooner too, but it adds a lot of value for them, so that stayed. I'm with you there.

Amazon Web Services power a lot of the internet.

YouTube only gets loaded if a user clicks "Watch Video".

Heroku only gets loaded if you submit your email in the top form.

Cloudflare helps power a lot of the internet. (HN, for example)

Taskforce.is a trusted partner, who offered to lend us Piwik hosting for this project. FFTF is hoping to set up their own server in the future.

TypeKit... that's where "Proxima Nova" is served from. The main designer at FFTF, Vasjen, made this awesome design using Proxima Nova and... we just all got attached to that font. I agree though, hosting all of the custom fonts would have rocked.

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The point of the site, isn't to coddle people, and tell them that this little corner of the internet is safe, but not to go anywhere else. Sorry, but the reality is, to attain privacy, users need to take action. Installing the Tor bundle, for instance, which includes NoScript. Ghostery is another good one.

Also, when you criticized the usage of AWS, Clouflare, and Heroku... were you making the point that high visibility sites should be self-hosted?

[aw3c2]

> Sorry, but the reality is, to attain privacy, users need to take action.

Sadly that is true and sadly that site is part of that problem.

I think Sprint's main point was the "please embed our javascript" part though. For what reason is that not meant to be self-hosted?

[oceanstone]

It's not sad that people need to take action. Taking action feels great, and is empowering.

Reset the Net is a step forward. A step, on a journey towards a society which stands up for itself, by taking action.

The purpose is to showcase all of the awesome companies who really care about privacy, and showing users methods by which they can increase the privacy in their electronic communications.

There's really no pressure for you to embed any JavaScript.

[aw3c2]

I think you completely misunderstood the issue which is that linking to a third-party hosted javascript exposes your visitors to that third-party.

[oceanstone]

Snowden and Schneier endorsed Reset the Net. Google, Mozilla, EFF, Twitter, and many others endorsed it. A bunch of awesome users participated, and shared how they are making positive changes as well. Feel free to share too, if you have anything positive to contribute. https://www.resetthenet.org/#add-yourself

[aw3c2]

I give up. You dodge and dodge and dodge with grandiose marketing speak. I am disgusted.