[jjj222]

Today I work in IT security- in my former life, he was a great inspiration.

I had almost forgotten him..... I was in a closed circle of psychonauts, we where about 60 people.

We would get our hands on the most exotic substances and share amongst us, and compare trip reports.

It was my entire life, 2cb,2ci,2c-t7,2ce,DIPT,5-meo dipt, lsd etc. So I have tried many of hes creations, and i idolised him. Then in 6 months 4 of the group died, 1 suicide, 3 ODs(not on any of shulgins creations of course). Then I quitted, dropped all my friends, started taking life seriously....

But I have one thing to remind of that time in my life...a book I inherited from one of my now dead friends:

http://i.imgur.com/S2pCuux.jpg

He actually wrote with Shulgin himself, doing experiments using cactusses injected with ummm...some variety of DMT I think- to make the cactus metabolise it into something else. Shulgin adviced him, and my friend did the experiments.

RIP DEX! RIP SHULGIN!

[jimejim]

It's a pity about your friends, so I get your decision and am sorry for your losses. I don't see why taking occasional trips means you can't take life seriously though. I still live a normal life and like to occasionally try out stuff.

On that note, I finally got to do some 2cb, 2ci, and 2ce about 2 years ago. Amazing stuff.

[jjj222]

Memories are starting to come back...

Alot of shit happened that do not mix with my new life...

Two of my close friends where busted for having secret illegal chemlabs- and a huge investigation followed. Alot of my friends where talked to by the police.

Today the police is a client of mine....

And alot of my friends never progressed in their development- i needed to move on. It isnt the drugs, it is the subculture that is the problem...it is wonderfull, lots of great people- but...you know :)

Anyway, my point is, it isnt the fact that I dont do drugs that means I am taking life seriously. It is that i cutted off that part of my life, the people, the mindsets, the illegal aspects of many things involved in that life.

[jimejim]

That makes sense. Thanks for the clarification.

[jjj222]

It isnt really the drugs...it is everything else that comes with it, the people, the illegal trades, the raves....

And I am getting old, I need my 9 hours of sleep to performance max! :)

But I havent said "I will never take X drug again"

I just havent felt like it :)

[jjj222]

ohhh, and the Bromo Dragonfly episodes.....

That also played a part....none of my close friends died of it, but people at raves i went to did....

[jjj222]

That is kinda none releated- I havent thought about that part of my life in years...and I can look at it more...umm..neutral now.

I remember I was at a rave, deep in a forest, an none announced secret rave- and this was playing: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4BgMxgwkfu8

I was tripping balls on 2cb, everything was moving, there was string art, people was dancing and where happy.

Then at the beach i see an ~ 8 year old girl crying, I go to her and ask: Why are you crying little girl? "I cannot find my mom" WTF! I was not in any condition to act responsily, but that was wrong, and not good! So I lift the little girl up, and go to the "dance stage" and yell out "WHO KNOWS THIS LITTLE GIRL?!?!?!" And I do not know how long I did that, it was a weird night and i was tripping balls. But finally an ~30 year old women with pink hair and glowing clothes says "Hey, that is my girl what the hell are you doing with her" I should have said: "What the hell are YOU doing with her? This is not a place for such small girls, and you fucking left her at the beach to go dancing- what the hell is there matter with you????" But all I said was "Take her......", and I went to the beach pretty shocked and confused...that wasnt really a good night.

Anyway, my pointe is "I am too old for that shit!"

[jimejim]

Jeez, yeah, I could see how having a few of those experiences might make you want to take a break. Some people can't be trusted to be responsible. I've been pretty fortunate with the groups I've been with.

[serf]

>Enterprise Java with UML

Man, if I were you i'd have gotten back into the drugs at that point. (I kid)

[jjj222]

well...then c,c++, then learning to code secure-then reverse engineering and exploit writing- it kinda makes sence, dosnt it?

:)

[ultramancool]

It does actually. That looks like a great bookshelf to me.

[alxndr]

Don't have my copy handy, but iirc TIHKAL mentions growing mushrooms with DMT in them?

[Scoundreller]

Sasha did write a blog article stating that psilocybin mushrooms would selectively 4-hydroxylate tryptamines. It's one of those reactions that plants can do very selectively quite easily, but if you try to do in a lab, it's difficult to prevent hydroxylation at other sites.

E.g. (well, not a real example, but the idea of the reaction). You could put DPT in the growing media of mushrooms, and get 4-OH-DPT in the mushroom.

Keep in mind that you could put DMT in the media and get 4-OH-DMT, but that would be pointless, that's what the mushrooms make anyway!

[alxndr]

Aha, that's what I was thinking of. I believe it's mentioned in passing in TIHKAL.

[fyrabanks]

I think you're confusing N,N-DMT (commonly referred to as DMT) with either 4-PO-DMT (psilocybin) or 4-HO-DMT (psilocin). _Very_ different substances.

[tumanian]

Unrelated, but your book collection is old school.

[jjj222]

They all represent periods of my life :)