Oh by the way "the informed consumer" just doesn't happen. 95% of people just grab something off the shelf and expect it to be safe and effective. Even if it isn't.
> Oh by the way "the informed consumer" just doesn't happen. 95% of people just grab something off the shelf and expect it to be safe and effective.
You're ignoring the informational role of retail brands. Consider toasters. I'm not a toaster expert, but when I buy a toaster at Kmart I can reasonably assume it won't electrocute me or catch fire in normal operation. I might only buy a toaster once every decade or so, but Kmart buys and sells tens of thousands at a time - it's definitely worth their while to hire an expert who looks very closely at what they are selling and responds appropriately to news about risks. Electrocuting your customer or setting their kitchen on fire is bad for business, so in order to minimize their legal/insurance expenses Kmart is quite likely to adopt such strategies as:
(1) sell mostly trustworthy brand names
(2) require 3rd-party certifications such as the UL seal in cases where those are worth what they cost
(3) run their own tests in-house as appropriate
(4) stop selling and remove from store shelves any brand that turns out to do notable harm.
Kmart decides what to sell attempting to achieve a particular balance of safety and quality, so I don't need to be informed on every specific brand I might find there - I just need to learn and know that Kmart either is or isn't generally trustworthy. If they are trustworthy, I can indeed "just grab something off the shelf and expect it to be safe and effective." (The same is true for specific name-brand product lines such as Craftsman or GE. In fact, the more a brand advertises, the safer it is to try that brand. Spending money on, say, a SuperBowl ad is equivalent to posting a performance bond - it involves spending a lot of money in advance that you can only get ROI from if the company expects to be around for a long time.)
Turning to supplements, I can be nearly certain that they are safe by that exact same logic - brands that clearly aren't safe tend to disappear pretty quickly from store shelves. (Because poisoning your customer is bad for business.)
I can't necessarily be certain supplements are effective and the FDA is, oddly enough, in part to blame for that. The problem is that supplements are not legally allowed to make health claims. They don't say on the bottle what the pill is for or exactly what outcome is expected. It's tricky for something like Consumer Reports to test whether health claims made for a product are accurate when no health claims are being made. So that one's tricky. It's possible we'd do better there with less regulation. A true free-for-all environment would let companies run ads and print packaging not only claiming their product had certain benefits but also (this is huge) comparing their product to competitors and pointing out that theirs works best. If a few large supplement companies are selling Resveratrol pills and the one called "Best" cuts corners using excess filler or a degraded supply, it's hard to think of anybody with more incentive to notice and tell us that "Best" is selling a crappy product than the competing firm "Nature Made". Open competition in which people can make any claims they can reasonably defend as true could solve a lot of the problem.
>brands that clearly aren't safe tend to disappear pretty quickly from store shelves. (Because poisoning your customer is bad for business.)
Obviously not.
> Almost a decade ago, experts were talking about how these supplements often contained “just a fraction of the ingredient on their labels–if any at all,” along with pesticide and heavy metal contamination. Just this year, news emerged that dietary supplements are tops in drug recalls for containing ingredients that pose a risk of “severe adverse health consequences or death.”
Plus only 2 companies from the study had 100% authentic ingredients. Pretty sure there are still more than two supplement companies still around.
Plus all the weight loss and body building supplements that contain drugs keep coming out and it doesn't effect sales of other products.
And anyways it is playing a game of whack a mole.
Plus you have a complete and total misunderstand about how supplement research is carried out.
I'm distinguishing "unsafe" from "doesn't work". Having "just a fraction of the ingredient on the labels", even if true, doesn't automatically make a product "clearly not safe".
The study referenced in the Forbes article doesn't say how it picked which 44 products to study, which seems to be key to the question at hand. Was it a random sample? Was it a sample they had prior reason to suspect? Only if they'd picked products from the shelves of a specific retailer would it be a test of a retailer's selection acumen. (The fact that a product is available from somebody somewhere doesn't mean you're likely to encounter it.)
They also don't tell us which specific products were good or had problems so there's no way for a 3rd party to check their results. (Was that the intent? Given 2 companies were absolutely reliable, why not at least tell us which 2 companies they were?)
Dietary supplements often get recalled despite being ridiculously safe. If the FDA gets more than a certain number of adverse reports they have no incentive to consider how popular the product is and do a cost-benefit analysis; as far as they're concerned the "benefit" of a popular product counts as zero so any measurable risk is too high.
Weight loss supplements are particularly prone to being recalled due to risk levels that aren't at all out of line with the potential benefit.
And we have that on a lot of stuff, but I think what I meant in this context is that most people in the US don't expect prescription strength stuff to be available on Amazon, so assume the work has been done for them when they search. Thai pharmaceutical companies aren't likely to include any FDA related disclaimers :P
http://www.forbes.com/sites/emilywillingham/2013/11/07/study...
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/12/15/opinion/sunday/skip-the-su...
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/11/05/science/herbal-supplements...
http://www.bottomlinepublications.com/content/article/health...
Oh by the way "the informed consumer" just doesn't happen. 95% of people just grab something off the shelf and expect it to be safe and effective. Even if it isn't.