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by 9919 4414 days ago
I think the point is that silent circle is secured by policy, not by technology. The validity of their security assertions only extend as far as you trust their word.
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It's hard for anything but policy to protect against denial of service (legal attacks against the company). Even if you have technical security which prevents compromise of data, they can shut the business down.

CALEA means you are actually prevented from building/operating some kinds of privacy tech within the US (PSTN voice without wiretaps for sure, and PSTN-interconnected VOIP is a gray area; a mobile-focused VPN would be a gray area too, although not as dark as some.)

I didn't know Tor, Bittorrent and Bitcoin use laws to protect themselves from DoS.
They do in that the organizations involved clearly dissociate themselves from running critical operational infrastructure, or getting involved with the potentially-illegal activities enabled by their tools.

If Tor Project ran a large number of Tor nodes directly, they'd be open to very simple legal attacks.

Those are protocols, not companies or even services... That's like saying ZRTP or SCIMP are using laws to protect themselves...

There are certainly examples of companies using the protocols you listed that have chosen where they operate with great care...

As a service provider you have to provide access to a fairly low percentage of data on your network under CALEA. But CALEA does not make end-to-end data protection illegal. You are not obligated to steal your customers' keys or access their endpoint equipment.

In practice, many operators do offer up access to 100% of their traffic, and to their endpoint devices to law enforcement and security agencies, but it's not a CALEA legal requirement.

You don't have to take anyone's word for anything...

https://github.com/SilentCircle/silent-phone-android

> secured by policy, not by technology

I'd say the goal can only be to maximize both, because no single factor will ever give you the best solution.

And their strategic positioning certainly also benefits from this move.

These are not two equal factors. Policy == human promise. Solid tech works regardless of promises.