[pjmlp]

> You do yourself a great disservice by sticking with Spring, Hibernate, JBoss, and the old standbys.

Given the amount of money you get with them, doing consulting in Germany, I think they will stay around for quite a while.

[robinhoode]

I'm curious if this is comparable to Rails rates.

[lgieron]

For UK market, check out jobserve.co.uk. From what I've seen there, the rates for a typical strong dev are about the same in the Java and the web scripting languages worlds (js/node, ruby). However, for rare and/or exceptional experience, pay in the Java world can skyrocket. Also, finance is hiring mostly Java/.net/c++ guys, and their rates are much higher than what everybody else is willing to pay.

[pjmlp]

You can get into projects doing 60K € working for others, freelancing is higher.