[saraid216]

That's the main reason I don't like it. I'm too consistently unlucky to play games that hinge on luck.

I do agree that it would become a lot less interesting at high-level play without luck, though. That's pretty much the price you pay for having turns, as a game designer.

[pedrosorio]

"Consistently unlucky" =)

[saraid216]

Yeah. I took notes across half a dozen games for a while before I realized I was depressing myself with empirical proof that the universe noticed me.

[kybernetikos]

Team up with a friend, go to a casino and bet red/green. Get them to bet the opposite way, but in larger denominations.

[saraid216]

You realize that is a bet on the fact that I'll lose, right? What makes you think that my luck wouldn't apply to that?

I recognize that you think I'm stupid, and I recognize that I haven't actually provided you with the hard data. But I'm not sure how that justifies trying to use someone's depression as a tool for profit.

Are you this much of a dick to everyone? Or am I just unlucky?

[kybernetikos]

I believe in testing things. I don't expect it to work since I assume that it's much more likely you fall within the normal range of luck, but I think doing the experiment would be interesting.

The central point is that if you have an unusual source of information about chance outcomes, even if it's negative, there should be a way to use that to gain.

If you think that the universe can make sure you don't gain financially from chance you could try a test that pits some other kind of gain against financial gain and see which way the universe goes. Some people bet against their favourite sports team so that whatever the result, at least some good will come of it.

Sorry to hear you're depressed.

[saraid216]

I'm a web developer. In terms of luck, that's a pretty high water mark for financial gain.

You believe in testing things, and for some reason, you don't seem to consider the many games I've played with luck components to be tests, but somehow gambling is a legitimate test because money is involved? Why?

> The central point is that if you have an unusual source of information about chance outcomes, even if it's negative, there should be a way to use that to gain.

I do gain. I learned not to play games that depend on luck. I learned that deliberately subjecting myself to depressing situations was not conducive to mental health.