[SideburnsOfDoom]

> while JS is great for form validation, trying to make it into a first class language is a bit laughable FWIW, I've written a few 100KLoC of production JS code

Having written a few KLoC of js with angular.js and about the same in tests on it, it definitely is a first class language now ... for the browser. On the server, you have other better options with types, threads and the whole works.

Also, if you've actually written over 100KLoC of javascript, then either you work on high-end web apps for google and co, or you're coding badly wrong.

[twistedpair]

Various large enterprise one page apps mainly in ExtJs (i.e. 70KLoC per app), predating the many new Xjs libs. Admittedly, they are likely terser these days than a few years back. However, I like to stick to GWT now and write JS compiler plugins to get the JS I need. :)