[BSousa]

I shouldn't feed a troll but, look at job descriptions from banks/insurance companies/science/education/betting/automative/health based companies. Do you see a simple word being related to rails?

ps: I know of some that do, most don't, and they pay a LOT more than all the 'cool' companies.

[rbanffy]

> ps: I know of some that do, most don't, and they pay a LOT more than all the 'cool' companies.

That's fine if you are working for the money. Personally, I prefer the "cool" companies, even if they pay less. For some people, wearing a tie and spending 40 years working for a big bank or large insurance company and then retiring is an option and I respect them. It's not for everyone, however.

[BSousa]

What is so 'cool' about those companies though? Not trolling.

Google -> Adsense are their main profit and from where the real top dogs go, the rest work in projects that most of the time go to the crapper. A lot of their big name projects are based on C++. Facebook -> No idea, but they were using PHP and C++ right? (sorry, I don't follow much of FB engineering)

While I don't want to piss on Rails or Django or whatever, I've hardly seen a lot of companies that do use them to be working on really cool projects (and not another CRUD app for social horse riders to exchange organic cucumbers (hyperbole)). A lot of the 'cool' stuff that is happening in our world seems to be coming from more fringe languages (R, Julia, Haskell, Scala, F#) or old mainstream (C, C++, C#, Java) than the Ruby/NodeJS camp. If we go mobile, then we are even talking have to acknowledge both mainstream languages to develop are Java and a superset dialect of C - Objective C.

So honestly, if you take the beer and ping pong tables out of the equation, what are the advantages of these self-entitled cool companies over the others? (Btw, most big companies have pool tables, table tennis, gyms, beer, wine, XBoxes etc as much or more than the startups, they just don't post pictures of them on their blogs).

[recursive]

I've worked for many companies as a developer in an MS stack. I've never had a dress code that required more than a t shirt.

[rbanffy]

So, you disagree with the "wearing a tie" part?

[wfjackson]

The other day I had a meeting with some folks in a company that uses .NET and the CEO showed up in a gym shirt, shorts and sports shoes. You're conflating the technology with the places it's typically used, there are places that use RoR where everyone wears a tie.

[recursive]

I disagree with all of it except for your preference. I think cool companies can write in .net