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by ithought 4419 days ago
It's interesting that Dre didn't create his music (*sampled), didn't write his lyrics and didn't come up with the idea for the headphones yet is celebrated as a genius. It was Monster's idea and then Jimmy Iovine propelled it to where it went.

Dre is a quiet, private person, who rarely tours or produces new music. The idea that he is a billionaire now from putting his name on exorbitantly expensive headphones and marketing them to people who can't really afford them, seems wrong.

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>Dre didn't create his music (*sampled)

This is a highly ignorant statement.

Sampling recorded music is in fact a very musical process, from the first 20th-century musique concrete experiments to the more modern intricate, multilayered compositions of artists like The Beastie Boys, DJ Shadow, Public Enemy, etc.

Musicians always take inspiration from other music. Build a song around a chunky 'AC/DC-style' riff. Channel Quincy Jones in the drum sound. Sampling was very important in the democratization of music production because it allowed artists without access to a studio and a host of instruments to work from a baseline of recorded sound. It quickly developed into an artform unto itself.

Yes, there was and still is a contingent of artists who sample lazily and with disregard for the original music, but Dr. Dre's productions--especially his early stuff--are full of musical reverence, high-quality engineering, and even improvements over the source material. Not to mention that after the NWA days he was increasingly bringing in session musicians to replay and reinterpret source material rather than actually sampling it digitally.

edit - And to expand a bit more on the last sentence, that is exactly what music producers do. It's only in recent years that the end-to-end musician, producer, recording engineer, mixing engineer, and mastering engineer has come into fruition. And that democratization of the recording process largely stems from technological advances like digital sampling.

You're right and my comment was off-base. I was just annoyed by the video release of Dre bragging about being a billionaire. Also it's somewhat interesting that he sued Napster and intended to sue college students and universities then becomes immensely successful via the digital music market.

Regardless, I let my personal bias influence an asinine comment. I'm aware that sampling music is artistic endeavor and takes talent and hard work.

Sampling is an art in it's own right.

Dre is a very talented producer with a long history of success: producing tons of music, bringing gangsta rap to the mainstream, pioneering the gfunk sound, pioneering the business model which have made hip hop labels so damn profitable, assembling super groups of studio musicians to consistently produce very popular music, finding and marketing brand new artists that have skyrocketed on the charts over and over again (eminem?), and more. Dre is an artist, but he's way more than that.

read something: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dr_dre

Cue all the people irately claiming that sampling is artistic.

Anyway, somehow who gets to be a billionaire just "by putting his name" on consumer items has got something going for him, even if it just luck.

Monster had the idea to do headphones. But Iovine and Dre came to them with their idea to do electronics. Monster didn't go to them, they came to Monster.