| First... my original point isn't really discussed: Don't mix up criminal juntas -- which must have external enemies -- with the countries they steal. I don't really care about "rights" for the juntas. >> Russia, a democratic nation (though exactly how non-corrupt it is can be discussed), Well, you are unusual. Few outside Putin's controlled media would describe Putin's Russia as a stable democracy. Most people would probably argue that Russia has never been close to democratic. :-( >> I'm not sure I really follow. They seem to have a great time intervening in non-NATO countries. That was a comment on when I wrote: "Not even USA starts wars with (or intervene in) stable democracies." I wrote "stable democracies"... That is not the same as "non-NATO country". Was it an honest mistake? >> No nation should have global military police forces. I agree with you in principle. But it is really naive. Our moral comes from living in a country with a working police force (state violence monopoly, rule of law, etc). Before that, there were only clan societies. Then your only security was that clan members would revenge you. And they only did that, if you were willing to revenge them. Our present morals just didn't work. The world's states today are like clans without a state police. There will in any given area be a bigger and meaner clan doing raiding. Now, there will be peaceful clans which don't start stuff with other peaceful clans (democracies), but consider China and Russia -- they are bigger than their neighbours and behave like vikings. You'd certainly see much more problems for the Philippines, India, ex-Soviet etc without USA and NATO... Point is, we have been better off with USA. No, it isn't perfect. Would a real world police even be desirable? What would happen if they did a coup? Who could fight against them? Think 1984, history as a foot that tramples a face. (The same as in the old communist states. Which was Orwell's point, of course) |