[kaeporan]

Thanks for laying out your thought process, it's very helpful.

> I pointed out that the protocol Cryptocat builds that UI on is so bad that you conceded downthread that you're building a new protocol --- you made that concession in direct response to my point about mpOTR's inferior transcript consistency.

This is the problem. You're assuming that my mention of mpCat was a concession made in "direct response" to your point about mpOTR, whereas it's actually brought up as a tangent. The reason we're building a new protocol is to be able to subject it to formal security proofs, as mentioned prior. It doesn't have to do with the existing protocol being "bad" or not or its current integration into the UI.

Regarding my other implied statements, I think it would be better to stick to claims I am explicitly making instead of assuming implications on my part. That being said, I apologize and will try to be more clear in my future comments in order to avoid assumptions.

I'm also not sure why you keep bringing up mpOTR. As I mentioned in my other post that you refer to, we're not using it anywhere nor do we plan to. We're building a modified version which is far less bulky, etc.

[tptacek]

Maybe some other reader can tell me whether Nadim is saying that he endorses TextSecure's continuous transcript consistency model and is working on folding it into his new protocol, or whether he thinks the mpOTR model of consistency checking only at the conclusion of sessions is so useful that not providing it is worth dinging TextSecure over, or whether there's some third option I'm excluding. Because I can't even figure out what Nadim is trying to say anymore.

[kaeporan]

I endorse continuous transcript consistency, but believe that TextSecure currently does not allow its users to benefit from it and that this should be resolved. I think mpOTR is irrelevant to this discussion. I hope that's clear!