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by mseepgood 4431 days ago
> Then there is Go's woeful head-in-the-sand type system and its dumb approach to error handling. Errors values are logical ORs -- you can return a useful value OR an error.

Not necessarily. Maybe you want to return the number of bytes read until the error AND the error.

> We've know how to do error handling without exceptions and without boiler plate since about 1991 (Wadler; monads). Generics since about 1985 (ML). Can we move on yet? Is a quarter-century long enough?

You're conflating "it was once invented" with "it's a good thing without any trade-offs and should be put in every programming language".
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azth 4431 days ago
> Not necessarily. Maybe you want to return the number of bytes read until the error AND the error.

Not mutually exclusive. The number of bytes read until the error occurred could be part of the error itself. Sum types are practically always better. The problem is that Go does not support them.

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mseepgood 4431 days ago
It's not a problem, because you can simply use product types, so you don't have to extend the language with yet another concept. For the Maybe monad / Option types you'd need lots of additional cruft like parametric polymorphism and probably something like the 'do' notation to make monads bearable. Go would lose all its charm of simplicity. Go would be another Haskell or ML, and we all know that these languages have failed to become successful by ignoring the human aspect of programming. We'd end up with articles like this http://www.haskell.org/haskellwiki/Typeclassopedia , longer than the entire Go specification.
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azth 4431 days ago
Haskell and ML are practically FP oriented. You might want to check out Rust for a language that is not purely FP oriented (it is multi-paradigm), yet attempts to take pragmatic choices from such languages. There seems to be a good community response to it.
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mseepgood 4431 days ago
The community response seems to be mostly from people who like to talk about programming language features all day without actually using it for real projects.
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azth 4431 days ago
I think that's pretty unfair. Rust has not even reached 1.0 yet, and there are already some cool projects being implemented. There were even a couple of games written in Rust for Ludum Dare, not to mention at least one case of use in production.
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pcwalton 4428 days ago
Is Servo not a real project?
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