[chandraonline]

I have never understood this hatred towards a language. Some languages and the ecosystems around it may allow you to burn yourself easily more than the others and in some cases where you were in your career when you first started hacking in that language might have burnt you. But in both scenarios I don't see the source for hatred. It adds to who you are as a developer I think. I frequently hear this from people who like to identify themselves with one of these camps. Why not enjoy all the languages and use them for what they are good at or more accurately use them for what you are good at using them for. Can't we all just get along...

[mikeash]

I wouldn't care about PHP if it weren't so popular. I mean, it's terrible to program in Brainfuck, but nobody uses it seriously so it doesn't matter.

PHP has a unique combination of terribleness and popularity, though, and that's a bad mixture.

[krapp]

>PHP has a unique combination of terribleness and popularity, though, and that's a bad mixture

I've read similar arguments made against C, and C++, and Java, and Ruby here, so I don't think that bias is unique.

[camus2]

Ruby is flawless,Java is rigid,C well nothing against C,C++ is a mess yes.

PHP is a mix of C (apis like mysql_fetch_assoc ), C++ (:: ->) and java (class and interface ) with javascript weak typing.

It is a mess. I'm a PHP dev, the problem is when i have to maintain other's people mess too. Ruby and Java messes are far more easier to maintain than any PHP one.

There is also the PHP culture and community ,which quite toxic.

For all these reasons,while PHP is my bread winner I have no love for it.

[Noelkd]

I would have to agree[1]

[1] http://www-users.cs.york.ac.uk/susan/joke/foot.htm